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Post by Cheggy on Mar 23, 2016 5:52:24 GMT
I only think it's fair to mention that I am the one who raised concern with Steve about this thread and initiated his request for different views.
My view is that although Nick may have timescales correct, his view on the events he mentioned can only be taken with a pinch of salt as Shane is not here to give his version.
I'm sure his reasons behind his actions are totally different from Nicks, or mine in fairness.
A lot of what went on between Admin was childish and petty, it dragged a brilliant forum to its demise purely due to two ego's clashing.
A lot of valued members simply stopped posting.
As I said, I raised concern about this thread because it is one sided, it serves no purpose and is dragging up old politics that destroyed a forum over 2 years ago.
This forum was created to try and regain what was lost before the egos started, so threads like this should die with the old site..... unless of course Shane could input his side of the story....and that isn't going to happen.
Time to get over it and move on.
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Post by marktrower on Mar 23, 2016 12:20:36 GMT
i agree with you cleggy the old site is dead and buried ,i do not believe anybody can blame one person and to be honest i do not care.i have known shane for about 30 years and at meets you would have seen there was no friendship between us and it will stay that way.all it is, is street corner gossip and to be honest ho gives a s..t
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 12:35:29 GMT
Darren and Mark - I'm going to respond to you both in a civil way. This thread is not designed to drag up the past or blame one person. Anyone is free to post their views on it (as you have). I'm not going to get annoyed with what you have said above as there is no point. Once people have a clear view of the full facts we can properly move on. We now move on from all the negativity and start heading towards a much brighter part of the story - where a new forum was created by Steve......but also the rebels element which I think is a fantastic side to the story. I'm really sorry that you both seem to have got the wrong end of the stick with it. If the majority want this thread to be taken down then so be it - let's put it out to the majority. I will be totally fine with it either way. Let me know folks.  |
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Post by stevegbr on Mar 23, 2016 13:09:42 GMT
We need to know if you want this thread to continue. A simple yes or no will do. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 14:41:08 GMT
This thread has had 2,303 views and a couple of members have expressed an opinion now that they don't agree with it? I think the silent majority may already have voted TBH.
We either talk about everything or nothing- there is always the option just to ignore it. I never read most of the guff about 80's music and the like, but if that's your bag then crack on. I also steer away from all the happy birthday stuff as it adds nothing to my day- but I would never impose my wish to not bother with it.
I am mildly interested in what went on back then as most of us were excluded- but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. If anything- having only one viewpoint IS a bit disappointing as a few others here now were involved and could help fill in the gaps and maybe add some balance?
I remember when I joined the old forum I was struck by the banter and rough humour that went on- very similar to the aircooled RD forum. Then it went so people were getting offended by the slightest critiscism or comment. Which is when I got banned I think.
If nothing else I hope we can continue to express honest opinions here- and Cheggy and Mark have........
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 14:45:17 GMT
We need to know if you want this thread to continue. A simple yes or no will do. Thanks. The problem with this is that people may not want to say either way as they are worried it may cause a divide... But please people, just give us a yes or no. We have two people who have clearly taken umbrage to it.......for reasons that I'm still not 100% clear on. And to add - no prior communication direct to me has been forthcoming from either member before posting their responses, more it was a direct email to another admin member? Going back to the point made that this thread has no purpose - at the very least people have already expressed that they find it interesting and entertaining. I cannot recall the last time you even posted Darren, let alone anything of any help or value to fellow Superdreamers? The pair of you, remember that this is a social forum and it needs social interaction to survive. |
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Post by Somersetdreamer on Mar 23, 2016 14:53:54 GMT
Yes in my opinion it's part of why this foram was created & its history is needed I was part of the old foram & watched the problem explode, I choose not to get involved in disputes & I will steer clear of any in future but that's just me, so in my eyes let the timeline continue .
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Post by Cheggy on Mar 23, 2016 16:05:41 GMT
Going back to the point made that this thread has no purpose - at the very least people have already expressed that they find it interesting and entertaining. I cannot recall the last time you even posted Darren, let alone anything of any help or value to fellow Superdreamers? People always find gossip entertaining, this is why newspapers sell. As for me posting? Let's just say I have a lot on at the minute. My "simple answer"is NO. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 16:35:40 GMT
Gossip?
It's a story. Gossip is made up of lies and hear'say. Anyway, your 'NO' has been logged and is totally valid.
Any other problems you have with me or what I post up, I suggest you please email me. In PRIVATE. Then perhaps we can discuss it like adults before causing issues on the forum.
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Post by marktrower on Mar 23, 2016 16:53:26 GMT
if you take this as a story i have no problem with it.the old site in the end was ruined by turf wars and childish behaviour.as i have said i known shane a long time he is a opportunist always has been always will be i have no problem with that we all know in the end it was for financial gain ,he tightened up the reins because his use for the site had ceased and was trying to sell.as i said as a story yes as facts no.because one mans facts is another mans fiction .i am not defending shane but he is not here to put his side and never will,but remember this is one persons interpretation of events
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Post by Cheggy on Mar 23, 2016 17:22:21 GMT
Gossip? It's a story. Gossip is made up of lies and hear'say. Anyway, your 'NO' has been logged and is totally valid. Any other problems you have with me or what I post up, I suggest you please email me. In PRIVATE. Then perhaps we can discuss it like adults before causing issues on the forum. Thanks I spoke to Admin, who in turn has asked for views. This isn't personal, please don't assume it is. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 22:14:36 GMT
You really confuse me Darren. In fact you have for a least a year or so now.
Just a reminder that I am also admin - and it is my thread you have the issue with. So you should of contacted me in private - as 'mates' if nothing else (and you say it's not personal?).
Anyway, I'm not going to have a beef with you in public about it. The matter is closed as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Fordy on Mar 23, 2016 22:28:44 GMT
To be honest I initially found this entertaining, but reading the latest posts this has obviously opened old wounds and I think you should now let it be and move on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 22:30:03 GMT
As not many people have been able to express a yes or a no I propose we continue.
But if the content is so 'upsetting' for two of our members then I would be happy to remove what has been written so far and start with what happened next. It was never my intention to feel that I was raking up the past or pin everything on one person. The problem is the timing of this. You would have seen that in the next installment (after leaving the forum) I did a lot of soul searching a questioned my actions in the whole affair. If you take time to read back, you will see that I have stated that this would not be a blame game. It has been exacerbated at one man in particular because other members have commented - not their fault - but I think it has lead (at this stage of the story) to it looking like a 'ganging up' exercise which was never my intention.
I hope the above makes sense.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 22:31:19 GMT
To be honest I initially found this entertaining, but reading the latest posts this has obviously opened old wounds and I think you should now let it be and move on. Possibly right - if people really are offended by it, I am happy to remove it. The oddest thing I find of late though is the actions of the person who took the most umbrage. |
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