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Post by scotto75 on Feb 6, 2016 13:29:46 GMT
That's super helpful. Thanks. I had seen that there were a couple of different versions of the cowling, and the fishtail one appeared to be present on the deluxe which also coincided with the black colour scheme with the black Comstars, but I may be jumping to wrong conclusions. Would a NDB fishtail cowling be correct for this? How would I find out... frame number perhaps? Or is it just a case of personal preference? I have had a quick look on eBay.de and found this.... www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262260578258?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AITIt says 83 on it, but has the black fishtail cowling attached too. Would something like this work? Cheers. |
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Post by na44superdream on Feb 6, 2016 13:58:18 GMT
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Post by scotto75 on Feb 6, 2016 14:50:49 GMT
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Post by kickstart on Feb 6, 2016 18:00:10 GMT
Welcome , Certainly a lot of work there which should keep you busy, do you know when the engine last ran ?
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Post by scotto75 on Feb 6, 2016 20:08:59 GMT
Welcome , Certainly a lot of work there which should keep you busy, do you know when the engine last ran ? You're not wrong. With two kids and a business, plus another bike I have in bits in my workshop, I have no idea how I've managed to convince myself that this was a good idea! I was told about 6 months since it was last turned over. The seller was 100% certain that it was in top shape before it had been taken off the road. The bike was laid up outside for a couple of months before I bought but had been stored in a garage prior to that. Obviously that's just what he told me... No proof. |
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Post by ian on Feb 6, 2016 21:06:11 GMT
Hi Scotto, welcome to the forum. Plenty of spares available nos, pattern & second hand for these bikes and if the engine's ok, it shouldn't be too expensive. Good luck!
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Post by scotto75 on Feb 6, 2016 22:13:59 GMT
Thanks Ian. Getting the engine running is top of the list, before I have to spend any money on it. Obviously I'll need to put some petrol in the tank, and could use a few fuses, and maybe a new spark plug. Possibly a new regulator, oh and a CDI while I'm at it.....
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Post by kickstart on Feb 7, 2016 17:11:46 GMT
There may be quite a bit of work but when the engine fires up i,m sure it,ll give you some satisfaction and drive to get cracking , the superdream is a great bike in it,s own right and we'll worth getting another one back on the road , your in the best place on this forum for any help and advice , so good luck and please keep us in the know how your getting on and a few piccies along the way is appreciated here ....
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Post by scotto75 on Feb 8, 2016 0:09:05 GMT
Thanks Kickstart. Unfortunately I can already sense that there's going to be quite a bit of work just to get the engine to fire! I'm sure once I do, I won't want to part with it. I'm already liking the idea of owning a nice looking CB250N (deluxe would be nice), in black with the matching black Comstars...... yes, I can picture it now.... something like this maybe?  |
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Post by scotto75 on Feb 8, 2016 0:13:42 GMT
Also, is there any info I can get from frame or engine numbers? Mine are:
Engine: CB250NE - 2003416
Frame: 2114361
Thanks.
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Post by wazzbo on Feb 8, 2016 0:38:09 GMT
The frame number is right for the year '81 but its fitted with an earlier kicker engine from a '78/79 bike
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Post by scotto75 on Feb 8, 2016 8:17:45 GMT
The frame number is right for the year '81 but its fitted with an earlier kicker engine from a '78/79 bike Thanks wazzbo. That's interesting to know. How would having an earlier kickstart engine affect the ignition setup, as it's originally using a CDI? Would it be using both or would the CDI be redundant now? |
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Post by scotto75 on Feb 8, 2016 8:26:20 GMT
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Post by rich on Feb 8, 2016 14:49:45 GMT
have you tried to turn the engine over yet?? if not, remove plugs and add some petrolly oil and leave overnight.
remove tank and clean frame top tube, remove flywheel cover and post a picture, remove the cam cover and post a picture.
next day try and turn the flywheel anticlockwise by hand ( by hand!! ) and watch the cam shaft and valves. You are looking for stuck valves, which will cause a problem, they will clash with the rising piston and bend!!!!
valve clearance is 5 inlet and 6 thou exhaust, but some clearance is good. If whilst turning the flywheel a valve gap becomes large, then that valve is stuck.
do not just whizz the engine over on the electric or lick stater until you know fopr sure all valves open and close properly!!!!!
this is your first job on the engine apart from draining the oil and examining it for metal bits.
leave bowl under the drsin plug and use redex oily petrol in the plug hole and look next day for "red oily petrol".
when all valves are defo ok, then you can whizz the engine over, and attempt to start after checking the charge system wiring is all good. you have a multimeter and a wiring diagram?
ps the brakes will probably be stuck, no panic yet, and the clutch will be stuck, so when engine running please please,pleased do niot just grab a hand full of throttle and smash it into gear, even when on the centre stand, as gears will be damaged.
take your time, be methodical, and enjoy. you know of cmsnl for the very helpfull exploded views etc.
find out about valve timing ( lean back of cam sprocket timing marks and chain play?? ) and balance chain ( dot position ) adjustments. bike has relatively low mileage so is hopefully a good one.
may be wise once engine running to remove the clutch cover and basket ( peg spanner needed ) so you can free and clean clutch basket, you will see what I mean when you take it off, also flush out the internal finned sump, k/stat oil trough ( can be done even on k/start types ) and cam troughs, well worth doing so all crap is out of engine and lub system.
pics of when clutch cover off, any signs that the engine has been apart befor
hows to swing arm for corrosion? and do the handle bars feel notch when turned lock to lock?? tank rear side area for rust?? and the carbs will be junked up I bet.
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Post by scotto75 on Feb 9, 2016 11:47:20 GMT
Thanks for your really thorough post. I had asked the same question a couple of days ago here... honda-superdream.co.uk/thread/7014/preliminary-startup-checksI'll quote your post on that thread too as it may be beneficial to have this info together with the other responses I got. I've got a multimeter and a wiring diagram and my first task has been to sort the electrics, but it's obviously been butchered and bodged a number of times, that nothing quite makes sense. I will have to start at the battery and slowly check and replace where necessary. This means it'll be a while before I can get a spark to the cylinders. The front brakes are seized. There are no shoes or carrier plate on the rear so no issue there! Even touching the clutch seems so distant considering everything else that needs doing. I will try to remember to take some pictures. The bike is in my lockup which has no electrics and is a 15 minute cycle away so getting time to spend on it is tricky. After my last go, I came back feeling defeated. It seems that everything on the bike needs attention or replacing. I'm wary to even look at the valves, swing arm, clutch, etc because it'll be more bad news. I'm seriously considering just selling it all and chalking this one up to experience. This forum with it's helpful and encouraging posts, like the one you've just posted, give me some much needed focus and clarity. Thanks again. |
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