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Post by stevie on Jun 9, 2015 20:21:02 GMT
Is there anyone on here riding using counter steering, i have been using it for the past 6 months and i find cornering and coming out of corners a lot smoother and quicker, i use the bike 6 days a week for my commute to work and i have finally got the hang of it.
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Post by Somersetdreamer on Jun 9, 2015 21:36:56 GMT
Yep its hard to explain but works great & you forget your doing it  |
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Post by wazzbo on Jun 10, 2015 6:38:56 GMT
Yes, it comes natural after a bit and you don't think about it.
Dave....
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Post by davefirestorm on Jun 10, 2015 7:52:21 GMT
Yes, it comes natural after a bit and you don't think about it. Dave.... Very true |
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Post by Harold on Jun 10, 2015 8:32:51 GMT
Apparently we all do it I remember reading an article about the subject and it said that the only way to initiate a turn on a motorcycle is to counter steer but due to the position of the bars most people don't realise they are doing it. But if you counter steer more than usual to the point you are consciously doing it the bike will turn in a lot quicker and will also stand the bike up quicker coming out of a corner.
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Post by jonnyboy on Jun 10, 2015 8:50:39 GMT
Does anyone know of any you tube links so that we can see it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 18:29:46 GMT
Does anyone know of any you tube links so that we can see it? Keith Code wrote whole books on it a while back- I still have them somewhere. But if you have to have it demonstrated you will struggle to do it naturally and more importantly- quicker- when you need it. Just ride along a quiet, straight bit of road and very, very, gently push with just one finger on one of the bars. All will become apparent as to what the bike wants to do as a reaction....... |
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Post by stevie on Jun 10, 2015 20:58:59 GMT
Good explanation, in a nutshell if your going into a righthander gently push on your throttle side and when coming out of it to straighten up push on your clutch lever side, for lefthanders, push on clutch lever side and to straighten up push on the throttle side of the bars, give it a go, have faith.
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Post by scott on Jun 10, 2015 21:37:52 GMT
I have no idea if I do it or not.  never really put much thought into it |
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Post by mikef on Jun 22, 2015 21:17:14 GMT
Hi All.
Sorry to drag up this old thread, but I have only just noticed it and it has made me think.
We must all have to do it, otherwise we would not be able to corner at more than a snails pace on two wheels.
It could be the reason that it is so difficult to ride a two wheeled bike at first. Having spent many hours trying to teach my children to ride a two wheeler and patching the grazed knees, I am going to tell my grandchildren the secret is counter steering.
Trouble is, I think it is something that you have to find out for yourself and do instinctively, maybe a bit like walking or clutch and throttle balance when learning to drive. Things that we now take for granted and don't think about.
All the best.
Mike.
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Post by Cheggy on Jun 22, 2015 21:36:50 GMT
You need a bit of speed for this to work, not sure your kids shod be told to steer the opposite way on a pushbike? |
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Post by davefirestorm on Jun 23, 2015 7:57:56 GMT
As already stated it's something we all do without realising,I don't know if it's part of the training new riders go through?I have never had any training/lessons for bike riding,never had any driving lessons either and passed both tests first time
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Post by bikermike on Jun 23, 2015 15:59:51 GMT
we had this on another list and someone took their bike into the carpark, and found it was about 20mph where it started to work. I don't think it's taught as the dvla riding stuff seems to predate it being understood. does roadcraft cover it? I suppose riding a hurley pugh fitted with vintage tyres on a rough road surface could make it increase the risk of washing out the front.
I took the 888 on track and deliberately countersteering on that takes it from supertanker to stiletto.
what's really fun is that with sticky warm tyres on a good surface you can do it really hard. Apparently Mick Doohan used to bend the clip-ons doing it.
mike
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Post by srx600 on Jun 25, 2015 6:55:08 GMT
Eer No ta
Have enough problems in life, with out generating more....lol |
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Post by JonnyHonda on Apr 11, 2018 12:43:29 GMT
I do a fair bit with the advanced rider community and as far as I know, counter steering (positive steering) is not mentioned in early rider experiences and is introduced as part of advanced training, I use the technique and it helps a lot particularly when on long rides on a big machine, I think this may a video you may be looking for, www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Ag_WOhetE&t=9s |
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never really put much thought into it
