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Post by buster on Sept 4, 2018 9:08:27 GMT
Glad you raised the subject, I've just bought these Avon Roadrider Front 90/90-18 51V / Rear 100/90-18 56V. Got a voucher which made it £107.94 delivered . I need a 100/90 18 with a tube for my CB250N. this may seem a strange question (I’m a strange person) but how do they compare weight wise with the tyres I remember back in the day, as I’v mentioned elsewhere in this post I’m blown away by how light pilots are and for me this is a major consideration. the road riders are probably my second choice as they seem widely available in the right sizes and speed ratings. either that or I’ll go out and buy some square deaths (avon sm’s are still available and have you seen the price?) and have the full retro experience
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Post by terryc on Sept 4, 2018 9:16:00 GMT
buster the last time i got my knee down was last year when I fell off it in a layby I got my foot down as I came to a stop but there was a bit of a banking there my foot slipped back under the bike the front wheel slid out the other way (dirt layby) and over we went (ouch) I broke my foot in two places and still had to ride another five miles home changing gear was different and painfull but I got there eventually
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Post by buster on Sept 4, 2018 9:32:27 GMT
buster the last time i got my knee down was last year when I fell off it in a layby I got my foot down as I came to a stop but there was a bit of a banking there my foot slipped back under the bike the front wheel slid out the other way (dirt layby) and over we went (ouch) I broke my foot in two places and still had to ride another five miles home changing gear was different and painfull but I got there eventually ouch! hope alls well now, the first time I got my knee down was on a superdream too (silver 250n, need I say more) sadly it wasnt just my knee my elbow and head were also scraping along the tarmac, but to be fair the bike (on its side) was trying to catch me up...
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Post by mike53 on Sept 4, 2018 10:11:18 GMT
I have had a look at these and I used to run me33’s and me99’s on my old ninja (really no choice cos of its 16” front wheel) and the metzeler range are good tyres. thing is though I really fancy the pilots because of the weight (lack of it) I got a 180 and a 120 for my kwack and couldnt believe how light they were and anything that ditches unsprung weight can only be good for handling. Good call on the weight, I'll freely admit that I didn't even give it a thought. Though i guess the differences in tyre weight are fairly inconsequential if they're going on a b*stard heavy comstar wheel?! Then again as you say, every little helps!
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Post by buster on Sept 4, 2018 10:19:08 GMT
I have had a look at these and I used to run me33’s and me99’s on my old ninja (really no choice cos of its 16” front wheel) and the metzeler range are good tyres. thing is though I really fancy the pilots because of the weight (lack of it) I got a 180 and a 120 for my kwack and couldnt believe how light they were and anything that ditches unsprung weight can only be good for handling. Good call on the weight, I'll freely admit that I didn't even give it a thought. Though i guess the differences in tyre weight are fairly inconsequential if they're going on a b*stard heavy comstar wheel?! Then again as you say, every little helps! I’m really only fretting about weight because mines got 250rs spoked wheels (when I ever get them built)
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Post by mike53 on Sept 4, 2018 10:37:04 GMT
Potentially getting off topic here, but why did you elect to use RS wheels rather than converting a comstar? (as per: motosynthesis.blogspot.com/p/products.html). As an RS rider I find the rear hub to be the most irksome thing about the entire bike, the cush drive is awful, no "cush" whatsoever and the sprocket retaining circlip mechanism perpetually finds a way to be floppy, despite machining custom spacers etc etc...
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Post by buster on Sept 4, 2018 11:39:51 GMT
Potentially getting off topic here, but why did you elect to use RS wheels rather than converting a comstar? (as per: motosynthesis.blogspot.com/p/products.html). As an RS rider I find the rear hub to be the most irksome thing about the entire bike, the cush drive is awful, no "cush" whatsoever and the sprocket retaining circlip mechanism perpetually finds a way to be floppy, despite machining custom spacers etc etc... to me a cafe racer has to have spoked wheels and being a tight git from yorkshire I thought if I got 250rs wheels I’d get the alloy rims for nowt if you see what I mean. I agree about the cush drive though had old hondas in the past with much the same set up and theyre a bit of a nightmare, this though is another reason for seeking out a light modern tyre, I’m also thinking hard anodised rear sprocket eventually all to keep the drive train as easy going as possible. in theory it should all help, in the real world it probably wont make the blindest bit of difference...
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Post by mike53 on Sept 4, 2018 11:51:53 GMT
How about a comstar hub spoked to the RS rims?! best of both worlds, cheap alloy rims and a decent hub with spacers that already fit the swingarm, everyone's a winner!
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Post by buster on Sept 4, 2018 12:25:38 GMT
How about a comstar hub spoked to the RS rims?! best of both worlds, cheap alloy rims and a decent hub with spacers that already fit the swingarm, everyone's a winner! the rs wheels actually fit with a minimum of fuss (and align properly) just one spacer to cut down on the rear. as for machining comstar hubs to take spokes? I honestly think it would be a massive expense and very difficult to do, how would you get a drill or milling machine in to machine the inner hub?
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Post by mike53 on Sept 4, 2018 15:40:17 GMT
I'd be into bolting on some laser cut flanges as below!
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Post by na44superdream on Sept 4, 2018 16:48:32 GMT
Whilst waiting on my 250 getting MOTed, the Dunlop book suggests K82 for the RS, with the option of TT100 if you wanted a 4.10 on the back.
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Post by buster on Sept 8, 2018 13:11:06 GMT
bit more looking around on this one and I’m really holding out for the pilots, what I’v worked out so far is that I’ll have to pair a metric 90/90/18 front with an imperial 4.00 18 rear but I think I can live with that, it just seems strange to me that michelin dont list a 100/90/18 rear, still I suppose thats our kermit cousins for you
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 4:55:40 GMT
Just reading though this for the first time tonight as I am trying to see what the mostly now defunct 3.60 19 front tyre as fitted to our CB250/400N equates to in new money. I have recently tried a spare wheel with a 100/90 19 on my Hawk (o.e was also the 3.60 19 as per the SD) but to me it runs too close to the mudguard. It clears but just does not look right.
Therefore I am assuming that 90/90 19 is the closest to the 3.60 19. (P.S, you've all stated the front as being '18 inch' unless I missed something?).
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Post by bodie on Sept 19, 2018 6:34:42 GMT
You have missed something Nick Buster is looking for tyres for his rs rims
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Post by buster on Sept 19, 2018 9:17:11 GMT
Just reading though this for the first time tonight as I am trying to see what the mostly now defunct 3.60 19 front tyre as fitted to our CB250/400N equates to in new money. I have recently tried a spare wheel with a 100/90 19 on my Hawk (o.e was also the 3.60 19 as per the SD) but to me it runs too close to the mudguard. It clears but just does not look right. Therefore I am assuming that 90/90 19 is the closest to the 3.60 19. (P.S, you've all stated the front as being '18 inch' unless I missed something?). thats me talking about my own front (theres quite a few options for tyres in pairs if you search superdream tyres on ebay) which is a cb 250rs wheel and the 18” front seems to narrow the options a bit for getting a matching pair.
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