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Post by mansell on Sept 30, 2015 20:48:00 GMT
Ok I get the gist, and you all make valid points for which I am grateful. If and its a very big if, I decide to part company with her in what ever form that takes I would buy a modern rider like an Mt03 or whatever for a couple of K and go from there. Thanks for all your wise words, they are very much appreciated and help lend some perspective to my thoughts. Watch this space....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 20:56:05 GMT
If you have lost interest though Ian.......I get you...... But I don't see the point in selling off all the spares and keeping a frame and engine? Where would be the sense in that? You'll never pull all the right bits onto her again like you have (I don't think). And you are just a bit like me - you would not be happy with NNR half as good as she was again (the second time) Good luck with whatever you decide - this is up to you and you only my friend.  |
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Post by mansell on Sept 30, 2015 21:02:45 GMT
Fair point mate, what I bought in 2010 was in effect an engine and frame, pretty much everything else was end of life, my rationale is that I would hold the log book and be NNR's first and last official owner. I'd keep the engine and frame as a reminder, that might seem a little odd but I feel ok about it. The rest are just parts to me as they're not original to NNR. It makes sense to me but I understand others wouldn't get it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 21:05:30 GMT
I kind of get that.....yes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 21:22:20 GMT
Fair point mate, what I bought in 2010 was in effect an engine and frame, pretty much everything else was end of life, my rationale is that I would hold the log book and be NNR's first and last official owner. I'd keep the engine and frame as a reminder, that might seem a little odd but I feel ok about it. The rest are just parts to me as they're not original to NNR. It makes sense to me but I understand others wouldn't get it. One thing that could also be a bit of a controversial statement but if you don't ask you don't get. May I ask, if you ever did decide to sell the parts off of NNR, could I request first dibs on that rear wheel I found you?  |
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Post by greybeard on Sept 30, 2015 21:32:01 GMT
Fair point mate, what I bought in 2010 was in effect an engine and frame, pretty much everything else was end of life, my rationale is that I would hold the log book and be NNR's first and last official owner. I'd keep the engine and frame as a reminder, that might seem a little odd but I feel ok about it. The rest are just parts to me as they're not original to NNR. It makes sense to me but I understand others wouldn't get it. I get that totally Ian - and I think with this statement, you have answered your own question. Now you just have to decide on which of the two routes to take. 1. Break NNR, get as much for the parts as possible, stash the engine and frame in the garage and buy another bike to ride. ------- OK, you get a fair bit of spons back for the bits, and you will have an 'ordinary' bike to ride. But the engine and frame will just gather dust in the garage. Like having the canvas of the Mona Lisa, but rolled up in a cardboard tube ad stuffed in a box in the attic. 2. Keep NNR - Ride NNR as is. After all, the only parts of NNR really are the engine and frame...The rest are just parts of a motorcycle. ------- OK, you don't get the spons back for the bits (but then, think of the agro you would have in selling them), you will have a very special bike that attracts attention (usually the right sort) and will be a hoot to ride. The engine and frame will be there for all to see!!! Like having the canvas of the Mona Lisa in a gilded frame and hanging above the mantelpiece. Of course, the third question is - what do you want out of your motorcycling...........and do you actually enjoy it anymore? (OK - 2 questions...) |
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Post by mansell on Sept 30, 2015 21:59:42 GMT
Not easy to respond to that mate, no decisions as yet and I'll keep you all posted but at the moment I'm leaning towards creating something from what remains of NNR , this is a toughie for sure but at the end of the day I'd still have control and be the registered owner?!! My lads aren't really interested in her because bikes are not their thing, my wife's not into bikes so it's just me and NNR. Blimmin' dilemma......
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Post by scania on Oct 1, 2015 7:04:33 GMT
I would never be without an SD, If I sell one I buy another one.
My main reason for owning one is physiological rather than practical.
The SD represent everything that I aspire to, Simple, Reliable, Easy to Maintain, Honest, Built from Quality Stuff, (which is the opposite of what the world is producing and becoming, which is bullS**t ruled by corrupt puppet governments controlled by wealthy maniacs))
My SD is a sort of mirror bible which keeps me on the straight an narrow.
I would never break a project to redeame the cost, personally I would prefer to sell the complete bike at a big loss to someone who would see the beauty in it.
I would see it that if I you restore a project than part of you is in it, so it would be counter productive at a personal level to undo it.
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Post by mansell on Oct 1, 2015 16:08:45 GMT
It is with some regret that I will part company with NNR. I will however attempt to sell her as a complete machine. Given her almost unique status as a NOS rebuild I will ask a firm £5K There is no rush to sell obviously so let's see how it goes. Thanks for all your input and advice guys. I'll keep you posted. It's a lot for an SD I know but you couldn't build one to the standard of NNR for less even if you could source all the parts. It took me three years to find the parts and 97% of her parts are genuine Honda NOS (Tank, wheels , forks, clocks, air box, rear mudguard, front mudguard, chain guard, sprocket, handlebars, switchgear, loom, engine cases and rocker, cover, battery tray, headlight Assy, cables, fuel cap, rear lights, inner mudguard, reflectors, handlebar grips, fork top bolts, footrests, side panels, rear cowl, clips, ties and bolts all genuine NOS honda) the brake calliper frame and seat pan all powder coated and there you have it. I have £6k receipts and a history file the size of two telephone directories! So if you know anyone, drop me a line!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 18:35:16 GMT
Hi Ian, If you are serious about selling NNR and want to get that kind of money I think some recent pics will be necessary at least. Also a full description of her running condition - a proper good advert needs to be constructed. The people with that kind of money I fear are not on here (as yet).....so you should also put that ad in the right places.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 18:46:16 GMT
This would be the first £5k SuperDream in the UK. I think I hold the record for the most expensive to date- the bike in the forum header. The time of year is not ideal, but if you are not in a hurry fairy snuff.
I feel for you Ian, been there myself where you have to decide whether you have an emotional attachment to a bike or not. The stark reality is that currently these bikes are worth more parted out. Especially with shiney NOS on them.....
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Post by mansell on Oct 1, 2015 19:08:11 GMT
I hear you guys but really top drawer stuff always finds a market. I know it's a big number but I've seen DT's, RD's etc realise that kind of number. Not sure eBay is the answer but some careful marketing will be required. Time will tell chaps, it only takes one person to love it!!
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Post by wazzbo on Oct 1, 2015 19:14:11 GMT
Is it a 400 mansell,?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 19:15:50 GMT
Did you end up sticking the right tank on her? You know by now that originality is key to unlocking the serious dollar.
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Post by Harold on Oct 5, 2015 11:03:09 GMT
I'm sorry to hear you and NNR are parting company Ian as your story and dedication were inspirational and I have told the story of NNR to other bikers often, when chatting about old bikes. I hope you get the money you are after as it has cost that and more to get it back to what is "as new" condition. I do feel it should have stayed with you but as you say it's a dear ornament, so good luck with whatever you do Ian and I hope the new buyer can appreciate the bike and it's history. I think given the value of the bike it is probably destined to be a display only bike from now on which is a little bit sad. It's a bit like seeing a beautiful animal in a zoo you can appreciate the beauty of the animal but you can't help but feel sorry for it and wish it was back in it's natural habitat.
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