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Post by mabbey on May 5, 2015 12:40:14 GMT
I sent a message to the seller first thing, hopefully he gets back to me
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 12:45:16 GMT
I sent a message to the seller first thing, hopefully he gets back to me Just thought it would be good for you to feature Darren's CB250T as well as the CB400T.
It will highlight the difference in decals as a lot of folk are not aware that there was a difference in appearance between the two models.
But of course it is up to you, Marc.
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Post by mabbey on May 5, 2015 16:41:40 GMT
Two lots of good news!
The seller of the CB400T on eBay has agreed to use of his images, I'll get those up in a gallery later on.
Second is that the article has been quality reassessed by the higher powers and is now rated as a B class article. This is only two from top, good article and featured being the only ones above. Happy with that!
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Post by dreamon on May 5, 2015 16:58:37 GMT
Hope one day to get my Cb400t looking like that one on EBay. Good information about the bible too. I wonder how many of them are still around?
John
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Post by mabbey on May 8, 2015 18:33:39 GMT
It seems like I'm flouting the rules again! Here is a post from an editor on my "talk" page. It has to be said that Eagleash has actually come to my defense on this! Below is the post
Gooday - image File:Cheggy's Honda CB250T Image 1.jpg has been improperly added to Wikimedia Commons and you should anticipate this being flagged up for deletion, in which case you would get a 7-day notification. You cannot just copy an image from any site, adding to the blog with 'Hey Dude, I just put your image on Wikipedia. Yeah, Wicked!' It has to be much more formal licensing than that, with a verification email sent by the image owner, or on their behalf, by an experienced registered username. The email(s) and email addresses are held on a non-public secure server and are screened by trusted users at OTRS. They are often way-behind due to an ongoing-backlog, often 30 to 90 days or even longer. You cannot just state that it's been gifted to the Public Domain - this is a false statment you cannot make on another's behalf without an email verification. Neither can you use ebay messaging to 'beg' the use of image(s) seen in a sale listing - once again, it has to be formalised by email-proper from the ebay seller, the 'owner' of the original work. Also please note that images uploaded to Wikipedia / Wikimedia Commons have to be freely available to all in the future, for any purpose including commercial re-use. This should be explained to any copyright-holder when requesting their co-operation in providing their image for use on a repository such as Wikimedia Commons. Images are often valuable for use in hard-published media, hence the use of icons and captions denoting copyright (©) and 'all rights reserved'. Also please be aware that images seen as uploaded to sites like Flickr may not be 'owned' by the username - Flickr is a largely-unregulated glorified blog and unreliable. Often they just add images and magazine pages, etc., to make themselves look 'cool'.
The image you added has already been flagged by a new-user bot, and would be subject to review in due course. We all appreciate you are a new user and not au-fait with this. The image will also be checked for other versions online, as it appears on the fansite you are a member of, pre-dating uploading to Commons
If you need more advice you can reply here. There are many things I don't know and you are right, it's a learning curve. I understand your enthusiasm, but I would recommend you undertake small changes to article text, not major re-writes to start with, perhaps adding to other Wikipedia existing articles that you may find info on in the publications to hand and not try to upload images that you have not taken yourself when you don't understand the licensing implications necessary with third-party sourcing. Maybe you'll now understand why there is a backlog in reviewing images!--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 11:42, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
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mabbey
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Post by mabbey on May 8, 2015 18:39:49 GMT
To get round this I have an email template that the copyright owner can fill in and send to the powers that be. It's a secure process so none of your details get posted online.
Do any of the admins have access to an @honda-Suoerdreams.co.UK email address? If it is possible I would love it if I could email the template to be filled in and forwarded on. Its not a long one, just a confirmation that Cheggy's has agreed to let the image go free to the public domain. Don't worry if it's not possible, I've got the eBay seller as a potential back up.
Cheers, Marc
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Post by stevegbr on May 8, 2015 18:41:08 GMT
this does seem like hard work marc.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 18:43:41 GMT
Perhaps Darren (Cheggs) could send you some images with reg visible and a photo of his V5 if need be?
But I agree, very long winded.
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Post by Cheggy on May 8, 2015 18:48:41 GMT
I agree Steve and in all fairness, Wikipedia is renowned for not being a reliable source of information.
Not that mabbeys article is misinformed.
Maybe it's just me but I take everything I see on Wikipedia with a huge pinch of salt.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 18:55:13 GMT
It seems as though it is less important that the content is actually accurate- but more that the correct procedure is followed....
Might be simpler if you drive up to Cheggy's and photograph his bike yourself!
crazy....
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 19:11:41 GMT
I am afraid this seems to be the state of the on line world we live in right now.
Everything has to be 'referenced' to the point of being inaccurate.
And I agree........crazy.
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mabbey
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Post by mabbey on May 8, 2015 22:16:19 GMT
They are sticklers for procedure, the amount of help files they have are just ridiculous!
Part of me just wants to prove a point against this rocknroller guy. I just do this for because it's nice to have something of mine up there. These other editors take things far too seriously!
If your ever down in Oxfordshire direction Cheggy give us a shout!
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 22:26:56 GMT
He's always down there.....
He drives a big fat truck for a living. Buy him a Yorkie (with raisin) change a gear or two for him on route to Reading (as well) and he'll be putty in your hands.
I am sure he will strap the Dream in the trailer for you one night so you can be snap happy.
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Post by mabbey on May 9, 2015 10:13:54 GMT
Below is the email I have to get sent in. Ridiculousness --------------------------------------- I hereby affirm that CHOOSE ONE: [I, (name here), am] OR the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Cheggy%27s_Honda_CB250T_Image_1.jpg and commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cheggy%27s_Honda_CB250T_Image_2.jpg.
I agree to publish the above-mentioned content under the free license: Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International. (THIS IS THE STANDARD CHOICE; YOU MAY CHOOSE ANOTHER ACCEPTABLE FREE LICENSE, IF YOU WISH TO)
I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.
I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.
I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me.
I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.
[Sender's name]
[Sender's authority (If applicable. E.g. "Copyright holder", "Director", "Appointed representative of", etc.)]
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Post by mabbey on May 9, 2015 14:36:04 GMT
I have come across another page that could do with some attention. This one is for CB400 twins. Its slightly pointless page seeing as it is covered by the two pages I have done recently. Anyway, it had no image so in celebration of Wikipedia's accuracy I have uploaded a photo of my own "completely original" Super Dream. Have a look  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CB400_%28twin%29 |
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