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Post by scania on Jan 30, 2015 21:25:16 GMT
I think of the enjoyment I get from riding, the places I've been and the people I have met and I don't want my kids to miss out on all that. My youngest daughter still goes on about the time my bike let me down and she ended up on the back of Trotsky and I was playing pillion on kickstarts bike... And she loved it! Like its been said already, the memories you can create for your kids are worth everything. The little blond guy on the bike looks cute, I see a photo competition on the cards.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 21:28:06 GMT
I think classic bikes are actually like antiques and future proof potentiality.......but of course, this notion is not guaranteed.
Does anyone get what I mean by that statement? Take the word 'patina' as a clue......
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Post by Cheggy on Jan 30, 2015 21:39:48 GMT
Trotsky? Pmsl
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Post by scania on Jan 30, 2015 21:50:25 GMT
I think classic bikes are actually like antiques and future proof potentiality.......but of course, this notion is not guaranteed.
Does anyone get what I mean by that statement? Take the word 'patina' as a clue...... 'Patina', now you have me really confused ?
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Post by davefirestorm on Jan 31, 2015 4:29:00 GMT
The classic bike scene exists because we keep an interest in the bikes we rode/drooled over when we were younger,I guess that because far fewer youngsters are starting out on bikes these days due to restictions in what they can ride etc. means in years to come the classic scene will shrink accordingly.There are a lot of elderly guys out there with small collections of old Brit bikes worth small fortunes but they paid very little for them years ago,this causes values to go up as they get scarce,also the older enthuisiasts have more money to throw around and will pay large sums for what they want and they buy as an investment Jap bikes especialy smaller capacity are more affordable but values will go up as they become more popular and scarcer.That's my 2 pennies worth on the subject,I'm off the bed now
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 13:33:38 GMT
The word 'patina' was never a term that was used in the description of vehicles - it has come from the antiques industry.
I do agree with DFS that the prices of certain bikes are driven by the desire to re-kindle peoples youth......but I think there is another side to it.
I think it could go either way.
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Post by kickstart on Jan 31, 2015 15:08:03 GMT
I agree great picture Mr Somersetdreamer , I,ve got a daughter (12) and a son (14 next week ) neither take much notice of my bikes but I do take them out on the odd summer evening and they enjoy it neither show any interest in having a bike on their own yet which to me is a shame , I could,nt wait to get a moped at 16 , I guess we,re all different ,I grew up watching our neighbour cleaning is old puch moped and bantam 175 and always wanted 1 ,if my kids want a bike I,d have no problem with it as long as they got proper training and took it seriously ....
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Post by kickstart on Jan 31, 2015 15:14:55 GMT
G I think of the enjoyment I get from riding, the places I've been and the people I have met and I don't want my kids to miss out on all that. My youngest daughter still goes on about the time my bike let me down and she ended up on the back of Trotsky and I was playing pillion on kickstarts bike... And she loved it! Like its been said already, the memories you can create for your kids are worth everything. Great pictures Cheggy and your welcome on my bike anytime, great times bike days roll on spring ....
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Post by marktrower on Jan 31, 2015 17:04:11 GMT
two years ago a neighbour wanted me to look at a car a great aunt had given his daughter for passing her test it was a austin allegro the one with a square steering wheel the car had 17000 on the clock she had got it brand new then got company car. when she desidered to sell she could not give it away. so stuck in here garage till now.set of tyres new battery and a service good as new. i put a mot on it ant took to there house his daughters face when she seen the car she was getting.well you can guess .i seen her later she loved the car the attention she was getting every were she went and the offers to buy it .i just believe every day objects put 20/30 years on then look what every day items of are youth are fetching now.there will always be a market for old bikes look what pre war bikes are going for and they are not being purchased for nostalgic reasons.just my thought of the day wile watching red dwarf on dave
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 17:40:47 GMT
I agree Mark......nail on the head.
The Allegro with the famous 'quartic' steering wheel, eh? Nice.
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Post by grahamb on Jan 31, 2015 18:08:43 GMT
My 2 sons , now 35 and 37 have never take much notice of biking. Took the youngest on the back once(many years ago) down the drive and locked the front brake on gravel. managed to save it but he has never gone near a bike or shown any interest at all. The eldest whilst still at home rode the wife's C92 on L plates for a season on vmcc run with me ( I think as said before, just to spend some time with dad) . then went off to uni and again never show any further interest. So they worry more about me as time goes on
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Post by terryc on Feb 1, 2015 8:24:06 GMT
My sons worse than that he thinks my bikes just a piece of junk cluttering up the yard he also thinks bikes clutter up the road as well and is allways picking fault with bad riders and drivers he allways notices bikes when he's driving never has wanted one though but I'm just happy that he's allways concious of bikes around him and is giving them room to maneouver shows all my nagging has paid off
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Post by greybeard on Feb 1, 2015 10:46:57 GMT
I think most youngsters today have no desire to go anywhere near a bike. They view them as dangerous, cold, uncomfortable and 'uncool'.
They all seem to desire small hot hatches - these seem to be the 'seventeener specials' of today.
When I was a lad (!) I had posters of bikes on my bedroom wall, watched all the bike racing I could lay my hands on on a saturday afternoons telly and would volunteer to clean my dads bike.
Now there is no Murray Walker from some wind-swept hillside in Yorkshire at a scramble meet, no dad with the bike (wife wont let him have one) so no interest.
Give it another 20 or 30 years and motorcycling will die out................
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Post by davefirestorm on Feb 1, 2015 12:20:25 GMT
I think most youngsters today have no desire to go anywhere near a bike. They view them as dangerous, cold, uncomfortable and 'uncool'. They all seem to desire small hot hatches - these seem to be the 'seventeener specials' of today. When I was a lad (!) I had posters of bikes on my bedroom wall, watched all the bike racing I could lay my hands on on a saturday afternoons telly and would volunteer to clean my dads bike. Now there is no Murray Walker from some wind-swept hillside in Yorkshire at a scramble meet, no dad with the bike (wife wont let him have one) so no interest. Give it another 20 or 30 years and motorcycling will die out................ It will only die out if the Euro idiots get their way with stupid legislation theyd love to bring in,the motorcycle scene might shrink but don't think it'll disappear go along to one of the VMCC organised events to see the following Grandparents/sons/grand sons all mucking in it's a family affair :)Maybe the VJMCC will grow and flourish to same level and keep that side of our hobby going,still a lot of speculators out there in it to make money which is good for us and our Superdreams etc. and the like where the investors don't poke their noses in still will appreciate in value because the realy desireable Kwak triples and fours,CBXs etc.etc. are too pricey now
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Post by scania on Feb 1, 2015 21:53:59 GMT
Keeping cars and vans on the road has got very hard in recent years in Ireland due to the EU Dictatorship stupid laws which are really just tax collecting. Many younger guys in my work place are talking about bikes because there is no MOT required for bikes here until 2022 anyway, and maybe not after that, either but if so only for bikes over 125cc and not for classics it appears. At least the political puppet scum have pushed it away until 2022, in spite of severe lobbing and brown envelopes from the their business owners.
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