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Post by daz66 on May 3, 2021 8:48:44 GMT
There has been some interest in the my Superdream, so much so that someone is coming to view it this week, after I weeded out the scammers!
However I have been thinking and now that its classed as a classic it no longer needs an MOT or Tax, my thoughts are that if it doesn't sell I may keep it (I've already made headway on starting it and will hopefully have it running this week) and use it or pottering around on.
As it doesn't actually require an MOT if I took it for one and it failed would I then not be allowed to use it until the defects were corrected or could I just ignore the failure and ride it anyway without a worry - I would like some form of safety check carried out on it to make sure that it's not going to kill me or suddenly fall to bits.
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Post by marktrower on May 3, 2021 9:39:32 GMT
Whether your bike needs a mot or not it must be in a roadworthy condition. You can take your bike and have a mot if it fails and you ignore the defects and something happened or stopped and the defects have not been resolved well you can explain why. And if its a major defect you are breaking the law riding it away from the mot station. Do not take it the wrong way the mot on a motorcycle is a visual safety check that you do on a regular basis even on new bikes more so on are older rides.when I clean my bikes that is when I find out if a item is wanting to vacate or needs adjustment and if you do not have these basic skills I would take up another hobby
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Post by kickstart on May 11, 2021 14:14:33 GMT
My bike will need to be mot tested this June for the last time as it turns 40 years old I’ve decided to keep taking my bike for an mot for peace of mind in case I miss something it could be a lifesaver , safety always first I reckon 👍 Ride Safe
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Post by terryc on May 11, 2021 19:29:20 GMT
My last MOT on the CM will be next February after that my tester does a classic test ,same as a normal test except DVLA are'nt informed and it's half the price of a standard test and you still get a certificate to show if you are pulled in a spot check ,don't know if all testers do this but it's worth inquiring .
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Post by BritPete on May 12, 2021 17:13:13 GMT
My bike will need to be mot tested this June for the last time as it turns 40 years old I’ve decided to keep taking my bike for an mot for peace of mind in case I miss something it could be a lifesaver , safety always first I reckon 👍 Ride Safe My 1959 C15 was exempt many years ago under the pre 1st Jan 1960 Law I carried on taking it for an MOT for 5 years while it was exempt and got to the point that I know more about the bike and its condition that the MOT Tester I stopped taking it On the SD's I am very pertantic each summer checking to the point I slide a strip of absorbent paper down the bleed nipples to check there are no leaks I think it is upto individuals If I sold one of my MOT exempt bikes I would put an MOT on it for peace of Mind MKW is now exempt - not made my mind up about that one yet
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Post by daz66 on May 14, 2021 12:30:40 GMT
Whether your bike needs a mot or not it must be in a roadworthy condition. You can take your bike and have a mot if it fails and you ignore the defects and something happened or stopped and the defects have not been resolved well you can explain why. And if its a major defect you are breaking the law riding it away from the mot station. Do not take it the wrong way the mot on a motorcycle is a visual safety check that you do on a regular basis even on new bikes more so on are older rides.when I clean my bikes that is when I find out if a item is wanting to vacate or needs adjustment and if you do not have these basic skills I would take up another hobby I've been riding bikes for nearly 30 years, I've owned my VFR for 23 years from new, I've taken an evening class in motorcycle maintenance covering all sorts of items from suspension to carb settings, so as far as my hobby goes I think that I'm pretty secure in knowing what's what. I was just asking about the legality of MOT's on classic motors, if they don't require them then if you have one done where do you stand if it fails, I will check with my local bike shop to see if they offer a classic MOT/check over as I wouldn't want to ride it if its unsafe nor let anyone else ride it.
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Post by marktrower on May 14, 2021 13:23:08 GMT
the main reason this as come out is that a modern mot is for modern vehicles and a modern mot bay and there staff have neither the equipment or training to test them do not forget we are talking vehicles up to 100 years old my oldest is 72.most are in better condition than when they were built and the government believe that the owners of these vehicles keep them to a high standard and roadworthiness and do little or no miles in or on them.but if you have a accident or stopped you will have the same checks carried out even if your mot exempt.the mot states your vehicle when tested is up to the mot standards when the mot was carried out .if you have been riding motorcycles 3 days or 30 years and you need to ask if your vehicle is in a roadworthy condition especially a motorcycle .as the law with mot you have advisories they are not fails ,then there are the fails you have 14 days to rectify these faults then there is major defects it is a offence to ride or drive away or use your vehicle again on the road till the fault is rectified even to take it back for retest . a mot is not a piece of paper that gives you a years grace till the next you still need to keep in a roadworthy condition.i know lots do not
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Post by daz66 on May 20, 2021 12:42:41 GMT
the main reason this as come out is that a modern mot is for modern vehicles and a modern mot bay and there staff have neither the equipment or training to test them do not forget we are talking vehicles up to 100 years old my oldest is 72.most are in better condition than when they were built and the government believe that the owners of these vehicles keep them to a high standard and roadworthiness and do little or no miles in or on them.but if you have a accident or stopped you will have the same checks carried out even if your mot exempt.the mot states your vehicle when tested is up to the mot standards when the mot was carried out .if you have been riding motorcycles 3 days or 30 years and you need to ask if your vehicle is in a roadworthy condition especially a motorcycle .as the law with mot you have advisories they are not fails ,then there are the fails you have 14 days to rectify these faults then there is major defects it is a offence to ride or drive away or use your vehicle again on the road till the fault is rectified even to take it back for retest . a mot is not a piece of paper that gives you a years grace till the next you still need to keep in a roadworthy condition.i know lots do not I'm not sure what you're driving at here, your post seems to be rambling all over the place. I understand that the bike doesn't need an MOT, I also understand that it needs to be road worthy and safe, if I can be the judge of that myself then all well and good for when I ride it. However if an MOT test is to determine whether a vehicle is safe (we all know that the ticket only really relates to the day it as tested so we don't need a repetition of this fact) for the roads, then what is the test carried out at the roadside by plod? if pulled over the information that they have via VNPR is that the vehicle is not in need of MOT nor Tax - they cannot suddenly become the arbiters of whether a bike is safe or not with a visual inspection at the side of the road, they can of course look at tyres, lights and indicators that may or may not be working but these are the only criteria they can use at the roadside to issue advise or prohibition orders. They cannot check frame/chassis for signs of weakness/stress/corrosion as they are not MOT inspectors and unless obvious this falls outside of their powers. If there is a Classic vehicle safety check or MOT I will gladly submit the bike to this to make sure I haven't missed anything.
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Post by marktrower on May 20, 2021 20:51:28 GMT
Hello you are underestimating the plod as my youngest son is one and lots of his mates are and the traffic side are mainly petrol heads and some are vosa trained they can and unlike a car they do not need a ramp for a motorcycle.were do you think it stands if it fails a mot like any other vehicle you rectify the faults take it for retest if it's fine your good to go.taking your bike for a test whether it want one or not puts it in the system and if you ignore the test findings why take it plus if the unmentionable ever happens and the recorded defects have not been rectified well I would not like to explain that.well I will leave it at that as I am rambling again
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Post by daz66 on May 22, 2021 21:34:41 GMT
I'm not underestimating plod, they simply aren't qualified enough no matter who their father is and there isn't enough of them to police the streets and roads as it is, they are underfunded and under represented and nowadays the chances of getting caught for anything is slim.
You seem however to either be deliberately miss reading my messages or are really not that bright, no where in any of my messages have I said that I will willingly or knowingly ride an unsafe bike on the road regardless of its MOT requirements or status, what I asked is if I take it for an MOT being that it doesn't need one would I need to abide by the findings - simple answer (given by kickstart) is YES I would have to abide by its findings, however if I felt unsure then maybe I could get it looked at by the MOT station but NOT having the MOT and then take on board their expert advice which is likely the way I will go for peace of mind.
I know how MOT's work, I've been putting various vehicles through them for nearly 40 years and keeping all my vehicle legal and safe, I don't need them explained to me in every message, I'm not some child with a learning difficulty.
I very much doubt you will leave it .......
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Post by marktrower on May 22, 2021 22:22:30 GMT
😗🤫🤔🤐
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Post by duffer on May 25, 2021 6:53:00 GMT
Please excuse me fella's. I have been away for a bit dealing with other (not nice) stuff, but when did we start being so short with each other ? This is a great place to ask a motorcycling question (and some non-motorcycling questions) and it is great to get some answers back. It has worked for me and so many others. Sometimes the answers are not what you expected, but someone has bothered to pitch in. I may be alone, but using terms like rambling and not that bright, towards someone offering a reply ? Is that what we do now ? Perhaps this exchange was a bit hasty, and it maybe deserves to be ended on a better note ?
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Post by stevegbr on May 25, 2021 8:54:57 GMT
You are quite right duffer. It does say in the rules about this type of behaviour. I have not intervened as no one has complained. But it will not be tolerated. If you have a problem with each other don't comment.
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Post by daz66 on May 26, 2021 11:33:22 GMT
I asked a valid question, and received some good advice but if someone is going to challenge my abilities then I'm going to put them straight.
I have had motorcycles for over 23years, cars for nearly 40 years and have kept them legal and safe throughout that time, earlier on taking care of the work myself and in later years sending them off to the garage for the work to be paid for.
I don't have to tolerate someone calling me out and telling me I should look for another hobby when asking a genuine and valid question.
The repeated posting and off topic picking is nothing short of trolling and bullying which is intolerable.
We are all adults here, and the forum has been, and will continue to be, a rich source of information and general good humoured comradery on a common theme. However as adults we all know that we can't all like everyone we meet and sometimes people will rub us up the wrong way.
I can confirm that none of my posts were made in haste and I read the return posts, went away and came back later to answer them.
The term 'not that bright' was made to convey the fact that either my post had not been read and understood correctly (which I had tried to keep light and airy) or that it was a deliberate attempt at trolling me AGAIN.
I'm not going to apologise for anything I said as I stand by it.
If this exchange falls outside the 'rules' of the site then I will accept whatever sanction the mods choose, removal of thread, banishment, time outs or whatever is chosen, but lets just take a minute and think about what's going on world wide with the Cancel Culture phenomena and try to keep things in perspective, no-one was abusive, people disagree all the time, and its only a few words on the internet isn't it......
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Post by stevegbr on May 26, 2021 11:59:59 GMT
Your not going to be removed daz. But remember rules are there to protect everyone. We want every member to use this forum and have a good time. We all have to be careful how we word our post as it can be read different by others. Life is to short.
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