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Post by wealdenrust on Aug 19, 2020 14:39:40 GMT
After all the too-ing and fro-ing from Sussex to Cardiff this year it's now official; My rusty S/D is Historic (well the Taxation Class is...)
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Post by bluedreamer on Aug 26, 2020 16:41:50 GMT
Yay, looking forward to getting historic status for our ones soon!
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Post by BruceB on Sept 29, 2020 20:53:37 GMT
I have three "historic" vehicles, now 4 with the SD. I absolutely love taxing them all on the same day each year for a year free. It makes me feel I am getting some of the income tax back
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Post by terryc on Sept 30, 2020 8:13:16 GMT
Did'nt realise you still had to go through the motion of actually taxing them each year even though it's free, you live and learn eh
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Post by stevegbr on Sept 30, 2020 8:20:28 GMT
what about insurance, can you still commute or pleasure only, just a thought.
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Post by BruceB on Sept 30, 2020 9:14:12 GMT
Insurqance for classic vehicles on a limited mileage policy is peanuts. I am fully comp inc commuting for 5000miles a year for 3 bikes for under £90. I don't expect this to change when I add the SD, it would be even cheaper if I took the Mk1 bandit off the list which is not exactly "vintage" You still get the reminder each year to tax and the insurance check is still valid, MOT's are automatically updated as current on the system.
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Post by duffer on Sept 30, 2020 10:51:41 GMT
Insurqance for classic vehicles on a limited mileage policy is peanuts. I am fully comp inc commuting for 5000miles a year for 3 bikes for under £90. I don't expect this to change when I add the SD, it would be even cheaper if I took the Mk1 bandit off the list which is not exactly "vintage" You still get the reminder each year to tax and the insurance check is still valid, MOT's are automatically updated as current on the system. All good points, but having a bit to do with the insurance industry in my day job, it would be wise to check your insurer is satisfied that the bike has no certificate of any maintenance, even though the DVLA no longer needs one. Small print is always a bastard, and they only check when you need to claim.
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Post by BruceB on Sept 30, 2020 11:21:23 GMT
It is up to the user to ensure that any bike is maintained to a road legal standard. Exempt MOT or not you will still get pulled if found with inoperable brakes, baldy tyres, cracked frames or any other fault that would make the machine dangerous. The majority of classic machines are maintained by owners, sadly the expertise is not generally out there to maintain older machines these days except for some specialists. In fact I have little faith that most garages would know how to maintain a lot of older machinery and a great deal of repairs are due to previous bodges, even by professional garages. I can remember recently replacing wheel bearings on one of my cars with kingpins recently (remember them? bet most younger mechanics don't!) and found that the stub axles had been set up with slight play as a modern bearing by the garage that had rebuilt the car before I bought it (I found the invoice in the paperwork). Unfortunately the stub axle on most old British cars requires shimming to remove all the play between the inner and outer mount as part of the strength of the stub is the inner spacer torqued up hard. Not doing this means the whole car is riding on a thin pin rather than a larger doubled up axle. The garage obviously did not know this and sent out a car that was dangerous through lack of knowledge. This is more common that you think and why I do all my own maintenance as do many other classic vehicle owners. The moral is that older vehicles, apart from specialists, are beyond the ken of most garages that don't have an "old boy" and that maintenance records in consequence would be of little value. If you have a crash and the vehicle is found to have been unsafe it doesn't matter if you have an MOT or not. SD's are a bit younger and are still relevant and reasonably current technology but there is a lot of machinery that is not. The figures show that older vehicles are generally in good condition but my opinion is that technology and performance took a leap about 1980 and I don't believe there should be MOT exemption beyond this. I think it should stop there and not encompass more modern technology that has very high performance with no independent checks.
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Post by sandy on Sept 30, 2020 12:12:48 GMT
DVLA are on a roll this week. I just received the new V5 for WTD977T today, now also a 'historic vehicle'. Currently in several boxes, better get stuck into putting it back together now.
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Post by kickstart on Oct 1, 2020 20:27:17 GMT
My bike is 40 next June so 1 more mot , think I,ll still get it mot,d for peace of mind , can't wait for it to be classed as historic 😃
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Post by terryc on Oct 1, 2020 23:54:44 GMT
My bike is 40 next June so 1 more mot , think I,ll still get it mot,d for peace of mind , can't wait for it to be classed as historic 😃 My tester has told me that once the bike has become exempt he does a classic test for half the price of a standard test he checks over the bike if it passes you get a certificate but DVLA are'nt told (Hence the half price ) if you get pulled you have a certificate to take down to the station and show them .Sounds like a good idea to me
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Post by BruceB on Oct 2, 2020 16:38:58 GMT
The cops check on the database and through ANPR cameras, if you produce a cert that is not registered I wouldn't like to be the garage as it has no validity legally. I can't remember the last time I got a HORTY, even when naughty, as they already have all your details before they get out the car.
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Post by terryc on Oct 2, 2020 16:46:22 GMT
This only applies once the bike is MOT exempt ie after its 40th birthday and is registered historic .It's just for peace of mind
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Post by BritPete on Oct 2, 2020 17:45:01 GMT
My bike is 40 next June so 1 more mot , think I,ll still get it mot,d for peace of mind , can't wait for it to be classed as historic 😃 My tester has told me that once the bike has become exempt he does a classic test for half the price of a standard test he checks over the bike if it passes you get a certificate but DVLA are'nt told (Hence the half price ) if you get pulled you have a certificate to take down to the station and show them .Sounds like a good idea to me I thought the DVLA only get a couple of quid from the test fee
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Post by terryc on Oct 3, 2020 11:10:17 GMT
No idea what they get Pete just passing on what my tester told me, I thought it sounded a good deal £15 for a test and two pair of eyes giving your bike the once over. I allways forget something so him pointing stuff out I've missed is very helpfull ,it's a route I'll be taking once mine's historic it'll be 40 next September so not long to wait
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