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Post by BritPete on Jun 25, 2020 20:47:23 GMT
Car 8 years old bought it when it was 8 months old - needs to last at least 5 more years.
I only depreciate at 8% a year
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 20:52:51 GMT
Felt sorry for my parents in law as just when the government decided to make a big U turn on diesel they'd just got a new Audi A6 Diesel - and lost a lot when they got rid a year or so later.
They've now got a Hybrid Lexus.
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Post by BritPete on Jun 25, 2020 20:59:16 GMT
Bought mine
List when new £24k
Paid £13.8k at 8 months old
Would never buy a new car
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Post by buster on Jun 26, 2020 7:13:28 GMT
I recently bought one of the cars caught up in that emissions scandal (diesel is more practical for me than petrol) and I can see why people complained. its a vw polo bluemotion (free road tax!) and its been geared to make it almost un drivable. I'd be 100% confident in saying that if it was geared a bit lower in the the last 4 ratios it would be far easier to drive and much more fuel efficient. they blamed the manufacturers for this so called scandal but the truth is the manufacturers are building vehicles to various countries idiotic (non real world) emissions tests, I'm sure they work great in a lab with a probe up its catalytic converter but not in the real world.
I also have to wonder, while the world seems to now hate diesel engines, if anyone has remembered that monsieur le diesel designed his engines to be multi fuel (from memory he developed them with peanut oil, might be wrong on that) diesel/derv didnt exist at the time. has anyone tested the emissions on say vegetable oil?
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Post by na44superdream on Jun 26, 2020 8:05:07 GMT
The other thing is, if you buy a car, what proportion of the initial build emissions do you take responsibility for, is it nil? The articles noting carbon produced during production seem to vary wildly, depending on what the author wants to prove, some seem to ignore the carbon footprint of all the sub-components etc. www.theguardian.com/environment/green-living-blog/2010/sep/23/carbon-footprint-new-carThis is only a guideline figure, of course, as some cars may be more efficiently produced than others of the same price. But it's a reasonable ballpark estimate, and it suggests that cars have much bigger footprints than is traditionally believed. Producing a medium-sized new car costing £24,000 may generate more than 17 tonnes of CO2e – almost as much as three years' worth of gas and electricity in the typical UK home. www.lowcvp.org.uk/assets/workingdocuments/MC-P-11-15a%20Lifecycle%20emissions%20report.pdfE20 you get less mpg. but it is a good sustainable thing if they are not cutting down rain forest to produce it. Diesel was the fuel to help the CO2 production. My current car took say, 14 tonnes of carbon to produce, but has done less than 18000kM since 2003, so has emitted <3.7 tonnes of carbon in use, since it rolled out the show room, and is still in "as new condition" exempting a couple of scuffs, a few underside touch-ups, timing belt, filters, battery etc. E20 is ok for new vehicles, and I'm all for moving to the best technology at natural renewal. But forcing the pace may be causing an increase in emissions. The people thinking of what to do in relation to the treaties they sign, are the very folk that will go home and switch on their Gas heating and cook a hot meal! Would quite like a hybrid plug-in for the next car, with a small E20+ battery charging Geni, but not an all electric. The battery disposal / recycling for electric vehicles, may become comparable to the air purity particulate issue for Diesels.
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Post by marktrower on Jun 26, 2020 12:15:35 GMT
Ethonal is cheap and a cheap way of making poor quality fuel run a standard car if it's good for the environment why are we destroying it to produce the stuff
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 15:39:35 GMT
Destroying what sorry?
Ethanol is not good for our old bikes..
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Post by marktrower on Jun 26, 2020 19:01:46 GMT
i do not call superdreams old bikes, old bikes ran on ethanol and most old cars .what goes around comes around
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 21:35:08 GMT
Another problem is that it is causing fires on say 90s cars and older because it rots the rubber components ie the fuel pipes.
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Post by BritPete on Jun 27, 2020 12:40:53 GMT
Any thread that is started regarding oil, petrol and even tyres I have decided to no longer get involved in. That said, I know we can discuss things on this forum in a more adult manner, but on facebook things just get silly whenever someone brings up these subjects (on the BSA page for example).......grown adults start hurling insults like children. But that's facebook and most of you know my thoughts on that. Opinions are like a*seholes.......we all have one and they are not always the same. It's a shame.....because I do like a good oil / tyre / petrol discussion. Maybe it's because oil is found in all three and is closely linked to the economy thus politics and people with too much 'vested interest' get involved......and things become heated. Good job you decided not to get involved FB - thread would be 4 times as long
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 21:14:33 GMT
I seem to keep getting dragged in a little bit.
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